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Jehovah: A Hoax Name of a Hoax god

“It is not true that the name of God is Jehovah. It cannot be. It is impossible.” This was the answer of Bro. Eli Soriano, dubbed as “The Only Sensible Preacher of Our Time,” to one of the inquirers in his worldwide Bible Exposition held November 6, 2008 in the Philippines. Soriano is Presiding Minister of the Members Church of God, International.

According to scholars, the Bible was written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. The Jewish Bible, or the Old Testament, was written mostly in Hebrew and a few parts in Aramaic. In Hebrew, however, there is no letter J, neither in Aramaic. How can it be that Jehovah is the name of God?

The Hebrew and Aramaic scripts were offshoots of the Phoenician script. According to Wikipedia, Hebrews and Arameans borrowed the Phoenician alphabet during the end of the 2nd millennium BCE (Before the Christian Era); thus, the Hebrew alphabet is almost identical to the Aramaic alphabet in the number and order of letters, names and phonetic values.

During the late second and first millennia BCE, the old Hebrew script was developed. It has since undergone changes, but its major characteristics have been retained to this today. The Hebrew alphabet is composed of 22 letters; five of these letters (kaf, mem, nun, fe and tzadi) have a different form known as the final form (sofit) when they appear as the last letter in a word.

The table below shows the Hebrew alphabet known as the ketav Ashurit or classical Hebrew script with the normal and final forms, the name of each letter and its transliteration for English. Hebrew is read from right to left.

Image courtesy of jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Image courtesy of jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Those are the Hebrew letters. There is no letter J. Hence, it is impossible for the name of God to be Jehovah. The name Jehovah was just invented by translators of the Bible.

From the principal doctrinal handbook of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Reasoning From the Scriptures”, published in 1985, on page 192, it says –

Hence some moderns have framed the name of Jehovah, unknown to all the ancients, whether Jews or Christians; for the true pronunciation of the name, which is in Hebrew text, by long disuse is now quite lost.

Only modern biblical translators formed Jehovah, Bro. Eli said. The name Jehovah is unknown to all the ancients, whether Jews or Christians. Not even Moses knew Jehovah; neither Apostle Paul. The word Jehovah only emerged due to the Masoretes.

The Masoretes were groups of scribes and Bible scholars based primarily in Israel. They worked during The Middle Ages, between the 7th and 11th centuries. These scholars attempted to put in order the pronunciation, paragraph, verse divisions and cantillation (ritual chantings) of the Hebrew Bible. They organized a system of pronunciation and grammatical guides in the form of distinguishing marks to identify vowel points of the Old Testament.

A vowel notation system for Hebrew is known as niqqud. All types of niqqud are not indicated in Hebrew writing. The reason for devising these systems is because scholars could not pronounce some of the Hebrew text.

The Hebrew alphabet is an abjad, a type of writing system having letters that represent consonants only; the reader must supply the appropriate vowel. Of the several systems of vowel notation that were developed, the most expansive was that of the Masoretes. The product of their work is known today as the Masoretic Text.

Even the name of God in Hebrew could not be pronounced by scholars, Bro. Eli said. The name of God is represented by four consonants, known as the Tetragrammaton: Yod, He, Vav, He. Due to the commandment of God to Israel that whosoever uses the name of God in vain shall not be held guiltless, the Jews considered the name too sacred to be uttered. It became a tradition wherefore not to pronounce it, until eventually the pronunciation was lost.

Below is the Tetragrammaton shown in three different scripts.

The Tetragrammaton in Paleo-Hebrew (10th century BC to 135 AD), Aramaic (10th century BC to 4th century AD) and modern Hebrew scripts. (Courtesy of Wikipedia)

The Tetragrammaton in Paleo-Hebrew, Aramaic and modern Hebrew scripts. (Courtesy of Wikipedia)

When the Tetragrammaton was translated in English, which is YHWH, the translators altered it because they could not pronounce YHWH. What they did was that they replaced Y with J and W with V; and then they added the vowels E, O, and A. That is how JEHOVAH was formed. Another word that was formed in the 19th century was YAHWEH by the Hebrew scholar Gesenius. It was rejected by major Hebrew scholars.

According to the New World Bible Translation Committee, at the foreword of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society for Jehovah’s Witnesses on February 9, 1950, on page 23, it says –

While inclining to view the pronunciation “Yah-weh” as the more correct way, we have retained the form “Jehovah” because of people’s familiarity with it since the 14th century.

The word Jehovah became known only in the 14th century. By then the Lord Jesus Christ had already gone up to heaven for 14 hundred years. The Apostles have also been dead for 14 hundred years before the word Jehovah emerged. Now, people are being fooled by the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Bro. Eli said. They are making them believe that the name of God is Jehovah. If you didn’t know where the word came from, you will really be fooled, because that Jehovah replaced the Tetragrammaton in some versions of the Bible.

Ironically, although the Jehovah’s Witnesses were inclined to view that the pronunciation Yah-weh as the more correct way, they settled with Jehovah because of people’s familiarity with it. They preferred familiarity more than accuracy. What makes this Jehovah-hoax worse is that after this “inclining to view” was published in the 1950’s, they made an effort to deny it 35 years later. Here are excerpts of the two editions from the New World Translation, and the alteration that was made, obviously, to mislead people.

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According to Bro. Eli, the name of God from the very beginning is written in Isaiah 63:16 (RV), which says –

For thou art our father, though Abraham knoweth us not, and Israel doth not acknowledge us: thou, O LORD, art our father; our redeemer from everlasting is thy name.

The name of God from everlasting is “Father.” Bro. Eli pointed out that prior to creation the Father already had a Son; thus His name Father is from eternity. He cited Proverbs 30:4

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

“That is Father and Son,” Bro. Eli emphasized. When God has not yet started His creation, together with Him was His Son. The Son calls Him, Father; and that Son is the Lord Jesus Christ. Proverbs 8:22-30 says –

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: Then I was by him, as one brought up with him:

The one speaking in these verses is the Wisdom in verse 12: “I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.”

The Wisdom said that even before the heavens were created, before the earth was made, before God’s creation began, He was with God; He was brought forth. In another translation, it says “When there were no depths, was I begotten…” (Geneva Bible). This is the same person that was begotten in John 1:18

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The Wisdom in the Book of Proverbs is the begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the Son that was brought forth before the heavens were created. I Corinthians 1:24 says –

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

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Christ is the wisdom of God. He was brought forth from the bosom of the Father before the heavens were created. In the past eternity, there was already Someone calling God, Father, Bro. Eli said; and that is the Son of God. That is why the Lord Jesus Christ, when He taught the Apostles how to pray, He said in Matthew 6:9

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

“Hallowed be thy name.” What name? Bro. Eli said, it is the name “Father.” That is the name Christ commanded His disciples to worship. When a Christian prays, he will not call God Jehovah or El Shaddai; he shall pray after the manner Christ commanded him to. He shall call on God, “Our Father.”

Now, there is this philosophy of pastors of Jehovah that “Father” is not a proper noun but a common noun, Bro. Eli recalled. During discussions, they would ask Bro. Eli what his father’s name is, and he would answer, Triunfo. The pastors would then infer, “So, he has a name: Triunfo. His name is not father.”

The phenomenal preacher then would answer: “Right, the name of your father is Peter. But if it is the son who is calling him, would he call his father, Peter? If you are a child, of course, you would call your father, father, or papa, or daddy. If you are a respectful son, you will not call your father by his personal name.”

“Look at Christ, whenever He speaks with His Father, He calls Him Father. He never used Jehovah. He always say, Father, Father, Father, Father, Father. He only called God in another name when He was on the cross, assuming the role of a redeemer, a ransom. He called the Father, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ Which means, ‘My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?’ But in any other occasion in His whole life on earth, He called God, Father; because that is His name from everlasting.”


  1. March 4, 2009 at 3:12 am | #1

    A comment to nhek of ADD:
    You must read this also.

    You are totally brainwashed and misled by your minister…Are not the verses I’ve sent you enough to ask yourselves “Are we really in the right path?” LORD and GOD are only proper names…Consider the people before in the Bible they know the name of God.They can distinguish him from other gods…What is the purpose of saying the word “the name of God” in other verses when yet he has no name in the Bible?Is Lord or God a name…Even stars are called by God through their names..It is written in the book of Job…Why would that things have names and himself would not have???It’s logical..If you have a friend or would have a friend, is it appropriate to ask his names first before knowing him or her thoroughly…Just like God although the pronunciation of his name has gone he still make a way through the early Bible scholars to make a near sound name to him…And it was accepted…Even the early catholic churches in Rome and Italy had name Jehovah in their churches…Still it still there…The tetragrammatton had appered on more than 7000 in the original Hebrew and Greek Scriptures of the Bible…Would you not think that Jehovah don’t have a lot concern about his name…Of course he has…He want people to know him that is why it is written so many times in the original Hebrew and Greek Scriptures…Won’t you do same thing if your God???Please read Romans 10:13…How will a person be saved if in fact he doesnt know the name of true God…Open your mind it doesnt mean that Jehovah is not a proper name for God.Many names in the Bible are not written in the exact name.They were TRANSLATED THROUGH GENERATIONS…Hope you got my point…Don’t insult the name of God…You might be sinned in holy spirit which cannot be forgiven…

    LORD and GOD are not proper names.They are proper titles.Just like a president of a country or a company.When we know we we are referring to them we write its first letter in capital.For example we are referring to the president of America.We just write…The President arrived last night… Or it maybe “The President announced his proposal to the public…We do not write it in a small letter when we are referring to high personality.Like Chief Justice we write that in that way not chief justice…Studying the Scriptures is not only studying it’s meaning it’s also studying the grammar..On how it is being written…Hope you enlightened with my comment.

    I have already sent you the Scriptural verses and I guess you haven’t look it in your own version of your Bible.Once again here are the verses that you should lookforin your own Bible.I’ve seen the verse Joel 3:20-21 in your online Bible and it is the same Jerusalem and Judah will be INHABITED FOREVER.Don’t you understand that.Those are plain words and understandable even by grade 1…Ok you are insisting for the literal new earth..So where are the verses that would show that Jerusalem and Judah would also be there?Insisting your beliefs show that you there will be a twin planet of earth.Could you find the Jerusalem and Judah in new earth if it is literal…The verse in the Bible that speak of the new earth can be found in Isaiah,Peter and Revelation.But those are repetition of words only.What about other verses would you not also consider it.If you will insist your belief in having a new earth that will contradict other verses.Once again look up in your own verse Bible this verse
    Do you undestand the verse in Good News Bible Today’s English Version in Psalms 104:5 that Earth will never be moved.What does your Bible says???
    Are not these enough to consider that the promise earth is still this earth???Or maybe you’re having a problem in your comprehension?The problem is you closed your mind to the truth…Yes i’m still a new one in Jehovah’s Witnesses but I know the truth and I studied looked it in other version of the Bible and I have found it there.So where is the difference of our Bible from other Bible.The big difference is the New World Translation is translated to exact words and brought back the translated words in its own translation like the soul, hades, sheol and others…That is the advantage of our Bible..Unlike the other Bible they just copied the translation from old Bible without considering the original Hebrew and Greek Scriptures…Jehovah’s Witnesses present their BELIEFS WITH SUPPORTING VERSES IN THE BIBLE not like other religion they just stick to that verse period.That’s not a careful examining.Well if you cannot accept these things it means your not accepting too the words of God.And why are you commentingme when im sending you articles from the site of JW’s.Aren’t you doing that also when you’re sending a video of you presiding minister???Just look at yourselves first before commenting others.And I am sure what I’m doing is right.Because JW’s speak in union…We have the same faith.Unlike your presiding minister he’s telling before that good people will bring to heaven and now he’s telling that there is a literal new earth.In the Bible it is written that THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF BODY IN RESSURECTION – HEAVELNLY BODIES AND EARTHLY BODIES READ 1 CORINTHIANS 15:35, 40.And how about the animals in Isaiah 11:6-9 where would they be?In 3rd heaven to?Would they they change into spiritual beings??Cometo think of it my friends…And it also stated in 1 Corinthians 15:50 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God…and what about Ezekiel 37:1-10 in the time of ressurection??Would it not be supporting verses for 1 Corinthians 15:35, 40?You the one ask???I will keep sending you about the truth…show me your verses that will prove to your insisting literal earth.Ask yourself do our church understand the content of Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah and Revelation.Those are prophecies written in symbols..So how can you understand them if you are going to give their meaning in literal ways???

    Daniel 12:9 And he went on to say: “Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret and sealed up until the time of [the] end. 10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand.

    send me your verses that will give proof to the literal earth..
    Good Day???Talaga lang ha nakipag-usap kayo sa mga Saksi…Show me your proofs first and I might agreed on you…Remember don’t just be quiet we are oblige to tell the truth to public…So do it…

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    fromthesunrising,

    You said,

    “LORD and GOD are only proper names…”

    Who told you that LORD and GOD are “only proper names”? Have you read that in the Bible? That LORD and GOD are “only proper names”? That is only your pastors’ conclusion. Prove to me biblically that LORD and GOD are “only proper names”! Your pastors like to conclude without biblical basis. You are the one totally brainwashed and misled.

    Consider the people before in the Bible they know the name of God. They can distinguish him from other gods…

    Consider the “people before” in the Bible? Which people? Be specific. There are many different types of people being mentioned in the Bible. I assume you refer to the people of God. Of course the people of God knew the name of God, and they knew the correct pronunciation UNTIL IT WAS LOST DUE TO LONG DISUSE. Besides, the Jehovah’s Witnesses is NOT the people of God, neither do they know the correct pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton. Is it Jehovah or Yahweh? Didn’t you read your own publications that I used as references in my article? Let me cite them again.

    Principal doctrinal handbook of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Reasoning From the Scriptures,” published in 1985, page 192 –

    Hence some moderns have framed the name of Jehovah, unknown to all the ancients, whether Jews or Christians; for the true pronunciation of the name, which is in Hebrew text, by long disuse is now quite lost.

    The pronunciation was LOST! Only “some moderns have FRAMED the name of Jehovah!” FRAMED! CONSTRUCTED! NOT BIBLICAL! Unless you can prove to me that your pastors have retrieved the correct pronunciation, the names Jehovah and Yahweh remain hoaxes! They are INVENTIONS!

    Isn’t your name Marlon? Let’s say the pronunciation of your name was lost by long disuse, and we are left with the consonants—MRLN. Now, here comes a false witness and tries to put vowels into what’s left of your name in whichever way it pleases him. He puts E, O and A, just like what the Jehovah’s Witnesses did with JEHOVAH, so that your name becomes MEROLAN. You like that? Then another false witness inserted A and E, just like what the scholar Gesenius did with YAHWEH, so that your name becomes MARLEN. Which one do you like better, MEROLAN or MARLEN? Or maybe you like MURLIN or MARELUN? Should we ask God which one does He like better, JEHOVAH or YAHWEH? Do you have the right to put even a single vowel into God’s name?

    The God of the Bible is not Jehovah, neither Yahweh. If the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was lost, it doesn’t give anyone the right to do guesswork.

    Besides, which one do authorities of the Jehovah’s Witnesses think is more correct, Jehovah or Yahweh?

    New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society for Jehovah’s Witnesses on February 9, 1950, page 23 –

    While inclining to view the pronunciation “Yah-weh” as the MORE CORRECT way, we have retained the form “Jehovah” because of PEOPLE’S FAMILIARITY with it since the 14TH CENTURY.

    “More correct” means the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not sure of both names! It is because Jehovah and Yahweh are INVENTIONS! Not even your scholars can say that they are 100% sure of the name Jehovah. You’re the one who should ask yourself if you’re in the right path. The ones leading you are blind, making you worship a name that the God of the Bible does not recognize. God has a name. You do not have the right to make a name for Him. Imagine, people became familiar with Jehovah only in the 14th century?! The Apostles do not know Jehovah, neither do the Lord Jesus Christ. If you really like worshiping an invented name, that’s up to you.

  2. March 10, 2009 at 1:26 am | #2

    You’re asking where I can find that LORD and GOD are proper names?If these are proper names then why there were called other gods and lords?Is it because it is written in small letters so they are not proper.Notice they are the same in spelling.And if you are goping to look it in a dictionary you can’t find GOD or LORD as a name for GOD but istead Yahweh and Jehovah.They would tell these are discriptive names or titles.So you’re trying to say that God has the same name with other gods because they also call gods and lords.Father is not a name too.It is a title of a man with a son/s or daughter/s.Jesus and other names in the Bible with starting letter Y is translated the first letter in J.For example Jerimiah it is written in Yerimiyahu, jacob wa Yakob, Joshua was Yoshua.Therefore there is no reason to question why YHWH became JHVH.J and H are modern alphabet in hebrew.So that is correct Y was translated to J.

    Moreover, the correct pronuciation doesn’t matter as long as we call him to accepted names.Jehovah in different languages have different pronunciation.There is Iehova, Jehova,Jehowa and others depending on the language spoken but still it is correct.We must call GOD through his name for it is said in the Bible that he calls his people through his name.

    I should correct it i mean proper titles.LORD and GOD are proper titles not a proper name…

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    fromthesunrising,

    I quoted your statements in italics:

    You’re asking where I can find that LORD and GOD are proper names?If these are proper names then why there were called other gods and lords?Is it because it is written in small letters so they are not proper.Notice they are the same in spelling.

    I should correct it i mean proper titles.LORD and GOD are proper titles not a proper name…

    You corrected yourself that you mean “proper titles” and not “proper names.” Good. However, the question still stands. Where can you find in the Bible that “LORD and GOD are proper titles”? That is just your conclusion. No Biblical basis.

    And if you are goping to look it in a dictionary you can’t find GOD or LORD as a name for GOD but istead Yahweh and Jehovah.They would tell these are discriptive names or titles.

    Your dictionary is not authority over the Bible. Jehovah was invented when the Apostles had been dead for 1,400 years. St. Paul did not know your Jehovah; neither the author of your dictionary. Your evidence and argument are both unsubstantial.

    So you’re trying to say that God has the same name with other gods because they also call gods and lords.

    God has the same name with other gods? Stop jumping to conclusions! And do not accuse God of having the same name as other gods, such as your god Jehovah.

    In the Bible, satan is called “the god of this world,” according to II Corinthians 4:4

    In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    The belly is another god. It is the god of the enemies of the cross of Christ, according to Philippians 3:18-19

    (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

    Father is not a name too. It is a title of a man with a son/s or daughter/s.

    Father is what you call a man with a son or daughter. There is no argument with that. But we are not talking about a man here, we’re talking about God. Maybe you’re getting dizzy.

    According to the Bible (not according to your dizziness), Father is God’s name from everlasting. Isaiah 63:16 says –

    For thou art our father, though Abraham knoweth us not, and Israel doth not acknowledge us: thou, O LORD, art our father; our redeemer from everlasting is thy name. (RV)

    Father is also the name Christ taught His disciples to worship. Matthew 6:9 says –

    After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

    Another name of God is Jealous. Exodus 34:14 says –

    For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

    Another name of God is “The God of hosts.” Amos 5:27 says –

    Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

    Another name of God is “The Lord of hosts.” Isaiah 48:2 says -

    For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.

    Another name of God is “I AM.” Exodus 3:13-14 says -

    And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

    Now, where is your “proper title”?

  3. March 11, 2009 at 6:00 am | #3

    What I’m trying to say to you is that GOD AND LORD is not a name, these are titles only.If this is name why would other call gods and lords too.They would be the same with GOD AND LORD.The difference only is on how it is written but in saying it is the same.So how can you distinguish it from GOD or LORD.Therefore this is not names.These are only titles.Would not God have his original and unique name.Why would he acknowledge only the word LORD AND GOD if he has a name.Father is not a name too.He is called father because he is the father of Jesus and spiritual beings and also his’ people.That is the reason why he is called father.Those are titles only for a position.

    For thou art our father, though Abraham knoweth us not, and Israel doth not acknowledge us: thou, O LORD, art our father; our redeemer from everlasting is thy name. (RV)

    Father is also the name Christ taught His disciples to worship. Matthew 6:9 says –

    After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

    Are you sure the word LORD is there in the original Hebrew and not the tetragrammaton.The tetragrammaton appeared in original Hebrew almost 7,000 times.That is why Jehovah’s Witnesses are transliterating the tetragrammaton
    to Jehovah for they found the tetragrammaton in a such verses.

    There is no reason to say that it is not a proper title.Because if not why there were called lords and gods.They have the same meaning right?They just differ in way of writing – in capital letters and in small letters.Even gods before have their names like Baal, Zeus and others but still they are gods.

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    fromthesunrising,

    You said, What I’m trying to say to you is that GOD AND LORD is not a name, these are titles only.

    You are totally lost. You have been insisting since your first comment in this article that God and Lord are not names but titles. You did not pay attention to the article. When did I ever say in the article that God and Lord are or are not names? It was you who brought that up, that God and Lord are not names but titles, thus the burden of proof is upon you. That is why I have been repeatedly asking you to provide your evidences but you’ve been going around circles.

    Fix your head first before you comment again. And don’t box your own scarecrow.

  4. March 12, 2009 at 4:38 am | #4

    And why are you quoting those verses that saying the LORD And God are names of God.See my comments on how our BIble translated it.There is name.The tetragrammatton is there.You’re not paying attention to what you are writing.Jehovah is the name of GOd. That is why he call his people through his name.OK?

    read again my explanation.There is no need proof for that.there are lords and god.Are they names??Come to thhink of it…Buzzz!!!!

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    fromthesunrising,

    See your statements in italics.

    And why are you quoting those verses that saying the LORD And God are names of God.

    First, in your first comment in this article you said, LORD and GOD are only proper names… Then you corrected yourself saying, I should correct it i mean proper titles.LORD and GOD are proper titles not a proper name…

    Whether you really meant proper names or proper titles your comment is irrelevant, inasmuch as there is nothing contrary stated in my article that you need to negate. Thus your statement takes the affirmative, so I asked you to provide your evidences, but you did not give any.

    Regardless if my belief, which I have not yet stated, is contrary to your claim, you first have to provide your proof since your claim takes the affirmative. Otherwise, in the case that I take the negative, I will be negating a claim that is without basis, and that is a waste of time. But you did not provide any biblical proof; instead, you insisted in your succeeding comment that: What I’m trying to say to you is that GOD AND LORD is not a name, these are titles only.

    You are “trying to say” something that is unnecessary, since I neither, at least not yet, stated, negated nor agreed that “Lord” and “God” are or are not names or proper names, titles or proper titles, whether in my article or in my responses. You are going around circles. All you do is claim. And now you say, There is no need proof for that.

    I’m sorry if that is the kind of faith you have. Mine, with God’s help, through Bro. Eli Soriano, has biblical proofs.

    Now, you ask me: And why are you quoting those verses that saying the LORD And God are names of God.

    Buzz!!! Your question is wrong. I did not quote verses saying that Lord and God are names of God. Read again. The verses say, “The God of hosts,” and “The Lord of hosts.” See how you make your own scarecrows? Am I talking to a child here?

    Again, where is your “proper title”? I was asking you to provide your biblical proof regarding that claim “proper title.” I took time to list down the names of God in the Bible, because the Bible says those are names of God and not “proper titles.” If your claim has biblical basis, you will be able to prove it. Take time to read and analyze before commenting.

    Jehovah is an invented name. You worship an invented name. I pray that the God of the Bible, The God of hosts, have mercy on you that you may see the truth.

    If you have any more questions in your mind, you can always post your questions in http://esoriano.wordpress.com. Bro. Eli Soriano is very busy with his Bible Expositions, but he will find time, with God’s mercy, to answer your questions.

  5. Botty
    May 18, 2009 at 8:09 pm | #5

    Greetings,

    Being a Muslim Arab, I can tell you that neither Jehovah nor any other rendition is correct. The letters “YHWH” are best pronounced as “Ya-ho-wa” which means “O’ he who is”. This is from an Arabic point of view, which is very close, if not identical to the Hebrew & Aramaic ones.

    If you read your bible(s) very carefully, you would realize that “YHWH” is not really the name of God but rather one of His attributes, which is close or similar to the Arabic “Hayy” (The Living). Think about it a little harder and give your head a good scratch! :)

    If you want to know the name of God, you’d have to read all the bible (both OT & NT), then get a good translation of the Quran and compare. Words like “eloah”, “elohim”, “elah”, “allaha” (or “alaha”) and finally the name “Allah”.

    BTW: Arab Christians have used the name “Allah” for God for centuries and it is printed in the Arabic translations of the bibles. Unless Arab Christians are ignorant and so are the western missionaries/churches who translated the bibles for them, then I would say that “Allah” is the name of God not only for Arabs but also for all Semitic races in the region since God declared Himself to mankind through His prophets.

    Salam (shalom, peace).

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    Botty,

    I don’t believe your Allah or your Qur’an. They are not authorities over the Christian faith.

  6. June 14, 2009 at 4:43 pm | #6

    The name of GOD is so HOLY that even the scribes misspell it. JHVH, NOBODY could pronounce this word. This word is misspelled by the scribes. If you check there is no letter “J” in the HEBREW alphabets.

  7. June 14, 2009 at 4:59 pm | #7

    JESUS never called GOD, ALLAH, JEHOVAH, etc. It’s just plain FATHER.

  8. August 15, 2009 at 7:18 pm | #8

    What Bro. Eli is saying is review the Hebrew alphabet, there is no letter “J”. YHVH sounded more like Yahovha in the Hebrew text; Yah is a short name of God. Halleluyah means praise be to Yahweh. Go to the main source, the Hebrew text.

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